6. This next subject I am finding difficult to know how to start, not wanting to alienate readers. (In my experience people don't appreciate you making hamburger out of their sacred cows). However, the Canada Wide Alpha Initiative has some flies in the ointment. In the B.C. Christian Info News a small article appeared informing us that the intercessors for Watchmen for the Nations had joined with Alpha Canada to promote city-wide Alpha courses across Canada. Who is this "Watchman for the Nations"?
Watchman for the Nations (WFTN) http://www.watchmen.org/index.asp "is a group of Canadian Christian leaders from diverse streams who walk together "to hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church"". To clarify, WFTN hosts "gatherings" where they believe they are appeasing God's wrath for the various sins of Canadians, if successful they believe that Canada will then be spiritually open for revival. In order to know what needs appeasing, what acts of penitence are required, and to what degree God has been appeased they rely on prophets such as Cindy Jacobs (remember that name?) the notorious Kansas City prophets and others).
WFTN is led by David Demian who attends Church of Zion in Burnaby. (A church that boasts on it's web page of receiving the power to perform gold filling miracles after attending services at the Toronto Blessing).
An example of one of WFTNs gatherings would be the Gathering of the Nations held at Whistler 1995. This gathering was in penitence for the sins committed against the first nations people of Canada and Hawaii. Involved in the meeting were such men as Bob Jones and Reuven Doren (of Kansas City Notoriety) and NAR "apostle" Alistair Petrie.
WFTN mixes quite freely with apostates of all colors. Including the very dangerous New Life Fellowship in Kelowna. (alias New Life Vineyard -rumors in apostacy circles is that the Vineyard Fellowship of Churches kicked them out, but in actuality they chose to leave "on their own", before the hammer came down). This is the church that "Extreme Prophetic" Patricia King ministers out of. Two of New Life's pastors are Wes and Stacey Campbell. At least one of WFTN gatherings were held at New Life, and they are frequently teamed up together with the Campbells at apostate meetings.
Stacey Campbell is a colorful woman. I have a few videos of her "prophesying" while shaking her head violently from side to side, (in one video she shakes her head for 4 minutes) it is a real eye-opener. That people can witness this without the thoughts, new age, demon possessed, occult, etc. coming to mind is beyond my ability to grasp.
Her husband, Wes, is an apostle in Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles, (a password protected site -because true apostles have something to hide??). http://www.apostlesnet.net/index.asp (a little side note: Bill Greig III the president of Gospel Light is also listed as an apostle in the ICA -you might want to keep an eye on their Sunday School, VBS curriculum)
Note: to avoid confusing you I should point out the Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles (ICN) and his New Apostolic Roundtable (NAR) are separate organizations, even though some "apostles" are members of both organizations. The ICA site has listed some (most likely not all) of it's members.
Wes, Stacey and David Demian are all on the faculty of Wagner's (absurd) Leadership Institute (Canadian branch in Red Deer). http://www.wagnerleadership.ca/# Absurd because you can get credits at this institute for attending any conference at the Toronto Blessing, or New Life Kelowna, etc.
Why would a sensible organization like Alpha mix with the likes of WFTN? Because Alpha itself is no stranger to the Toronto Blessing and it's apostate associates.
Nickey Gumbel is credited with launching the Alpha course. Nicky Gumble is the
curate of Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB) which is known as the Toronto Blessing (TB) centre for the U.K. (Ellie Mumford went to the TB, picked up the spirit and returned to England and launched HTB into the laughing revival).
Sandy Miller the earlier curate of HTB and spokesperson for Alpha is also an enthusiastic supporter of the TB as was demonstrated in his endorsement "'It's not confined to any one denomination or any one person,' ... 'Quite the reverse. It's happening across the board - free churches, house churches, Church of England, established churches, all over the place'" The 700 Club Fact Sheet, "HOLY LAUGHTER: Bringing Revival To The Church?" as featured on the 700 Club Newswatch, October 27, 1994.
Miller and HTB also endorse the Kansas City Prophets (eg. Miller's endorsement of Mike Bickle's book -Growing in the Prophetic). Alpha advertises for the Word of Faith; God Channel (Alpha News #26, page 26)
Is hosting an Alpha evening really worth all the extra baggage that comes with it? Didn't churches know how to evangelize before Alpha came along? I acknowledge that the dinner evening has it's draw, and if that is what attracts you, better to go with the far superiour Christianity Explored course. www.christianityexplored.com which doesn't take a whole weekend to explain the Holy Spirit and only one day to talk about Jesus. (I purchased the CE Church package and am very impressed).
In HIS service, A. Berean
Watchman for the Nations (WFTN) http://www.watchmen.org/index.asp "is a group of Canadian Christian leaders from diverse streams who walk together "to hear what the Spirit is saying to the Church"". To clarify, WFTN hosts "gatherings" where they believe they are appeasing God's wrath for the various sins of Canadians, if successful they believe that Canada will then be spiritually open for revival. In order to know what needs appeasing, what acts of penitence are required, and to what degree God has been appeased they rely on prophets such as Cindy Jacobs (remember that name?) the notorious Kansas City prophets and others).
WFTN is led by David Demian who attends Church of Zion in Burnaby. (A church that boasts on it's web page of receiving the power to perform gold filling miracles after attending services at the Toronto Blessing).An example of one of WFTNs gatherings would be the Gathering of the Nations held at Whistler 1995. This gathering was in penitence for the sins committed against the first nations people of Canada and Hawaii. Involved in the meeting were such men as Bob Jones and Reuven Doren (of Kansas City Notoriety) and NAR "apostle" Alistair Petrie.
WFTN mixes quite freely with apostates of all colors. Including the very dangerous New Life Fellowship in Kelowna. (alias New Life Vineyard -rumors in apostacy circles is that the Vineyard Fellowship of Churches kicked them out, but in actuality they chose to leave "on their own", before the hammer came down). This is the church that "Extreme Prophetic" Patricia King ministers out of. Two of New Life's pastors are Wes and Stacey Campbell. At least one of WFTN gatherings were held at New Life, and they are frequently teamed up together with the Campbells at apostate meetings.
Stacey Campbell is a colorful woman. I have a few videos of her "prophesying" while shaking her head violently from side to side, (in one video she shakes her head for 4 minutes) it is a real eye-opener. That people can witness this without the thoughts, new age, demon possessed, occult, etc. coming to mind is beyond my ability to grasp.Her husband, Wes, is an apostle in Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles, (a password protected site -because true apostles have something to hide??). http://www.apostlesnet.net/index.asp (a little side note: Bill Greig III the president of Gospel Light is also listed as an apostle in the ICA -you might want to keep an eye on their Sunday School, VBS curriculum)
Note: to avoid confusing you I should point out the Wagner's International Coalition of Apostles (ICN) and his New Apostolic Roundtable (NAR) are separate organizations, even though some "apostles" are members of both organizations. The ICA site has listed some (most likely not all) of it's members.
Wes, Stacey and David Demian are all on the faculty of Wagner's (absurd) Leadership Institute (Canadian branch in Red Deer). http://www.wagnerleadership.ca/# Absurd because you can get credits at this institute for attending any conference at the Toronto Blessing, or New Life Kelowna, etc.
Why would a sensible organization like Alpha mix with the likes of WFTN? Because Alpha itself is no stranger to the Toronto Blessing and it's apostate associates.
Nickey Gumbel is credited with launching the Alpha course. Nicky Gumble is the
curate of Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB) which is known as the Toronto Blessing (TB) centre for the U.K. (Ellie Mumford went to the TB, picked up the spirit and returned to England and launched HTB into the laughing revival).
Sandy Miller the earlier curate of HTB and spokesperson for Alpha is also an enthusiastic supporter of the TB as was demonstrated in his endorsement "'It's not confined to any one denomination or any one person,' ... 'Quite the reverse. It's happening across the board - free churches, house churches, Church of England, established churches, all over the place'" The 700 Club Fact Sheet, "HOLY LAUGHTER: Bringing Revival To The Church?" as featured on the 700 Club Newswatch, October 27, 1994. Miller and HTB also endorse the Kansas City Prophets (eg. Miller's endorsement of Mike Bickle's book -Growing in the Prophetic). Alpha advertises for the Word of Faith; God Channel (Alpha News #26, page 26)
Is hosting an Alpha evening really worth all the extra baggage that comes with it? Didn't churches know how to evangelize before Alpha came along? I acknowledge that the dinner evening has it's draw, and if that is what attracts you, better to go with the far superiour Christianity Explored course. www.christianityexplored.com which doesn't take a whole weekend to explain the Holy Spirit and only one day to talk about Jesus. (I purchased the CE Church package and am very impressed).
In HIS service, A. Berean
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